A CONVERSATION ABOUT COLLECTING HISTORIC PUEBLO POTTERY
With Michael Ettema, Ex-Director of the Desert Caballeros Western Museum in Wickenburg, Arizona and Dr. Mark Sublette, President / CEO of Mark Sublette Medicine Man Gallery
Maria Martinez (1887-1980) and Popovi Da (1921-1971)
San Ildefonso polychrome jar
circa 1960, 5″ x 7.25″
Ettema: How did you become a Pueblo pottery dealer and how long have you been in business?
Sublette: Growing up in New Mexico, my family would visit Santa Fe and these visits would add to my little but growing collection of pots and pottery animalitos.
These first acquisitions became the nidas of my addiction and ultimately led me to my art career which included selling pueblo pottery.
E: What makes pottery so fascinating to you and to your customers?
S: I know for me the attraction is in the sculptural nature of the vessel. Pottery needs to be handled; I love the feel of a well made piece of pottery in my hands.
I love thinking these pots were simply clay deposits and an artist, contemporary or historic, turned that earth into a functional but artistic object.
J. D. Roybal (1922-1978) Firing Sequence
Circa 1976, mixed media, 4.25″ x 18″
E: What characteristics should buyers look for in a pottery dealer?
S: I would suggest for individuals with an affinity for collecting pottery the first step is self education.
Learn the steps of how pueblo pottery is constructed. This basic knowledge will allow the collector not only to recognize problems but also works by master artists.
Pottery that is hand made is just that, there are often slight irregularities that verify the piece is authentic, but also will give the viewer a sense of the quality.
Zuni Canteen, circa 1890, 13″ x 13″
E: How do you define “quality” in Pueblo pottery?
S: I look for certain characteristics in art, and pueblo pottery is art. Is the piece symmetrical? If painted is the composition well thought out and beautifully painted?
Condition is always a factor, especially for pieces made and signed by the artist. You want to pieces that are contemporary to be in very good to excellent condition.
Historic pieces can have issues, even restoration, but you do want this disclosed when purchasing. Finally the price should be somewhere in a range.
For me all art at any given time has a price range no matter where you purchase. From high to low and what your buying should fall in this collecting bell curve.
If it’s out of this curve two standard deviations then your radar should go up. To know what a fair price is you need have done your research and know what the current market is.
We have hundreds of pieces of pottery on our website www.medicinemangallery.com with price, dimensions, and condition listed along with multiple images of each piece.
Lisa Danielle, Hopi Priorities
Acrylic on canvas, 36″ x 36″
E: What types of pottery are relatively strong or weak in the market right now? In the next few years?
S: Pottery like all art forms is cyclical and during this last recession pottery prices, as well as most art forms, have corrected.
This correction can be a great opportunity to pick up pieces priced to move as some collectors who may need to raise cash or who are elderly sell pieces.
We have had a couple of these collections in the last year and they all sold very quickly.
Named potters like Nampeyo, Margaret Tafoya, Lucy Lewis, and of course Maria Martinez are always in demand.
Old Lady Nampeyo of Hano, Hopi pot, circa 1900, 4″ x 8.5″
E: What types of aesthetic trends have you been seeing in the last few years and where do you think makers are going with their designs in the future?
S: My bread in butter has always been traditional historic pottery and named potters. What I do find very interesting is watching the contemporary market evolve.
Artists who are stepping out of the bounds of traditional pottery incorporating unusual forms and non traditional designs are peaking my interest and that of my clients.
These pottery pioneers may be what we consider traditionalists one hundred years from now, not unlike modern art which now seems to be part of our everyday life.
Maria Martinez (1887-1980), Rare polychrome jar
Circa 1920, 8.5″ x 9.5″